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This second Report in the this intoductory series shows some
basic patterns when using the 25 markers common to 16 of the 21 current
participants.
Extending the analysis to 25 markers doesn't add much new information. It does show that for the group of 4 profiles that match at 12 markers, 2 still match exactly at 25 markers. At 25 markers you want to see 1 or 2 or 3 total distance so our data is still way more complex than that. (note that the profiles with only 12 markers retained their distance calculation for only the 12 markers. |
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We can also identify sets of markers that don't "act" right for comparison and
graphing programs. Scattered throughout each profile are sets of markers with
special characteristics. some of those characteristics overstate genetic
distance when performing mapping and other analysis.
A common adjustment is noted here from the McGee site: The stepwise model says that each mutation is allowed to change the allele value by exactly one, so a difference of two means that two mutations occurred and a difference of three means that three mutations occurred. The infinite allele model says that the entire difference between allele values, no matter how large, is the result of one mutation. As a "for instance", all of the research companies agree that the dys464 group is best analyzed using the infinite allele method. Some markers "include" a partner marker, like the dys389 set. hence you need to subtract one from the other before doing a comparison. We can delve further into that aspect of analysis if there is enough interest. In the meantime, we should at least consider these adjustments as setting a lower end of a distance range. It might help make our complex data more understandable. In the chart below see the revised distance (rev. dist.) column. |
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This chart has been resorted to highlight some new patterns.
As Bill Maney pointed out, profiles 84511 and 74127 are identical on the 2nd half of the 25 markers, and share an interesting couplet (18 30) at markers 448/449; Profiles 12109 and 97012 also share a few couplets. The 13/13 pattern at the start of the dys464 markers is just so so interesting because, as discussed above, that marker set has special characteristics that make changes maybe not so remarkable. But to also have the 8/9 pattern at the dys459 marker set makes the combination maybe pretty remarkable. Why only maybe? Because even on the revised distance rating the two profiles are at least 4 differences apart. That's enough to make you suspect the pattern is coincidence. We just need more data. more participants. Join Now! Thanks.paul
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Graphs were produced using Network © Copyright Fluxus Technology Ltd Median Joining feature by Bandelt H-J, Forster P, Röhl A (1999), and MP feature by Polzin T, Daneschmand S V (2003) , with data calculations as derived using the fabulous McGee Utility by Dean McGee; Spreadsheets built with Microsoft Excel 2003 Paul Mahoney, Co-Administrator of the O'Mahony yDNA Surname Project and Author of the yDNA Project Analysis Reports section of the OMahony Society Website, does not assume any legal liability or responsibility for the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of any information on these pages, nor does he represent that its use would not infringe on privately owned rights. Further, Paul Mahoney disclaims any and all warranties, express or implied, relating to this website and any information contained therein, including warranties as to the accuracy or completeness of the information. Paul Mahoney shall not be liable for any damages of any kind, under any theory of liability, resulting from user's access to the website or use of any information contained therein. |
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